Tag Archives: uk

Here we go again! ….

Another idea for a no-Scotland UK flag. Like one of my earlier ones, this has similarities to the South African flag because of the sideways “Y” shape (a “pall fesswise” in heraldry). There’s no attempt to represent individual countries : instead, the three arms of the pall represent the three remaining UK nations. Red and white are the two colours common to all three constituent national flags, and blue represents the sea in which this island nation sits. Because of the colours, this still has a British feel to it.

uk-pall-rwb

Here it is along with the royal standard and various ensigns. The ensigns are proportioned 1:2 whereas the land flags are 3:5, as is usual practice in the UK nowadays

uk-pall-rbw-flags

The background could be green, represent the land and green fields, and giving all the main colours of the three flags, but I prefer the blue:

uk-pall-rwg

Copyright © 2014 Vexaldry

Yet another rUK idea

Something a bit more radical, which works with or without Scotland:

For a single, unified flag for England plus one or more Celtic countries (Scotland, Wales, NI), we could dispense with St.George (who was not English, and never came anywhere near England) and replace his cross with the cross flory from the attributed arms of St. Edward the Confessor and other Saxon kings. Then add a circle in the middle to produce a “Celtic cross flory”.

If all the symbolism is in the design, the colours wouldn’t really matter, but I’ve used the blue and gold of the attributed Saxon kings’ arms, plus one version in the traditional red, white and blue.

ukewni-celtic-crosses-flory

The only trouble is that the “Celtic cross flory” looks familiar to me, but I can’t think where from.

Copyright © 2014 Vexaldry

A couple more UK-without-Scotland ideas

Two more weeks to go before we discover whether the UK will need a new flag or not, so unless and until the need goes away, I’ll keep dreaming things up! These keeps all the crosses and their backgrounds intact:

uk england on roundel

uk england on diamond

Of course, if Scotland does remain in the UK, there’s still the little matter of getting Wales into the flag.

Copyright © 2014 Vexaldry

Another rUK flag

I’ve just come up with this idea for a UK without Scotland. Trying to keep it simple while representing all three remaining nations (England, Wales, Northern Ireland), I’ve taken my inspiration from South Africa. Here the colours are from the three flags (red and white St.George’s Cross for England, red and white St.Patrick’s Cross for Northern Ireland, and the red, white and green Ddraig Goch flag of Wales), but no specific national symbols are included. The three arms represent the three nations:

uk-sa-idea

Copyright © 2014 Vexaldry

UK local flag ideas : Bristol (England)

bristol-flag-mini A flag for Bristol?

The City of Bristol, in the west of England, straddles two of England’s historic counties – Gloucestershire and Somerset, although the extension into Somerset (south of the River Avon) only occurred in the late 19th century. However, it has been a City and County in its own right since 1373, except for the 22 years between 1974 and 1996 when it was part of the now-departed and unlamented County of Avon.

For centuries, Bristol competed with Norwich for the status of England’s second city, until both were overtaken by rapidly-expanding industrial cities further north (Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool …). It was a major port, accessing the Atlantic Ocean via the River Avon, which flows through the city and into the Severn Estuary. Bristol has the honour of being the home port of John Cabot, who, in 1497 set sail in his ship The Matthew to become the first European since the Vikings to set foot on the North American mainland. The city also has the dishonour of having been heavily involved in the slave trade, from which much of its wealth emanated.

city bristol

Bristol has a history of innovative engineering achievements, such as the SS Great Britain, which was the World’s largest ship when it was launched in 1843, and the first screw-propelled, ocean-going, wrought iron ship. The same engineer who designed the Great Britain, Isambard Kingdom Brunel, was also responsible for the Great Western railway which ran from London to Bristol, and for the iconic Clifton Suspension Bridge in the west of the city. In the 20th century, Bristol developed an aircraft industry, producing aircraft for use in both World Wars and later becoming the British centre for the construction and testing of the World’s first supersonic passenger airliner, Concorde. It is now involved in the construction of the Airbus A380, the World’s largest passenger airplane.

The shield of Bristol’s coat of arms dates from the 14th century, and the full arms were granted in 1569. They reflect medieval Bristol’s status as a well-fortified city and a port. These arms now belong to Bristol City Council, and I think I have seen the banner of arms in use by the council.

For a city (as opposed to Council) flag, I opted for simple representations of the city’s maritime and engineering heritage. Maritime activity has to be represented by a ship, as it is in the coat of arms, although I have chosen to use Cabot’s Matthew rather than the medieval vessel in the arms. For engineering and innovation, in the interests of keeping things simple, I opted for nothing more than an inverted arch, indicative of the Clifton Suspension Bridge. The colours – red, white and blue – are from the coat of arms.

bristol-flag-idea bristol-flag-clifton

Copyright © 2014 Vexaldry

Composing a Union Flag

A number of contributions to the BBC website’s recent feature on a Scotland-less union flag have proposed changes which involve removing the blue but leaving the saltires unaltered, like this:

A green union flag

I’m not sure whether they are unaware that there’s more to removing the Scottish saltire than changing the background, but in order to clarify, I thought I’d show the stages in the construction of a British union flag:

First, on a blue field, place two saltires, a white one, for Scotland, immediately above a red one, for (Northern) Ireland:
Two saltires

Then, vertically flip the right-hand side, so that the right half of the red saltire is above the white one (they are “counter-changed” compared to the left-hand side). This gives Scotland precedence on one half, and Ireland precedence on the other:

Two saltires counter-changed

Then add a border (“fimbriation”, in heraldry-speak) round the whole thing. It should be white, but I’ll use grey for the moment to distinguish between the border and the Scottish saltire:

Counter-changed saltires with border

Then add the St.George’s cross of England, also with a border:

Union flag, borders in grey

And there you have it:

Union flag

So … if you want to remove Scotland, you have to remove the Scottish white saltire, leaving just the Irish one with a border (I’ve doubled its thickness):

Irish saltire

Then change the background and re-add St.George, to produce this:

UK green without Scotland

not this:
A green union flag


Copyright © 2013 Vexaldry

UK flag without Scotland

Debate has started about the flag of the remaining United Kingdom in the event that Scotland votes for independence. I’ll write some more about this later, but for the moment, I’ll just post three of my ideas.

1. Incorporate the St.David’s Cross of Wales, retaining the foreground and background colours of all three crosses (red-on-white for England and (Northern) Ireland, yellow-on-black for Wales):

UK without Scotland : three crosses

2. Use the Welsh dragon and Northern Ireland flax (borrowed here from the NI Assembly logo):

UK without Scotland : dragon and flax

3. The most radical (and least likely to find favour!) – forget the crosses – use flowers : Rose for England, Daffodil for Wales, Flax flower for Northern Ireland. On white for England, Red for Wales and Yellow (from the arms of Ulster) for NI:

UK without Scotland : flowers


Copyright © 2013 Vexaldry